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How to become a Data Entrepreneur, Validating ideas, Feedback from stakeholders

Updated: Oct 6, 2022

MindSpeaking Podcast Episode 9 - Lillian Pierson, CEO of Data-Mania

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00:00 Introduction

00:24 Introduction of the guest

01:53 Who is Lillian Pierson?

03:31 Product management and growing data-intensive businesses

04:30 What makes you so passionate about products?

05:33 Being an entrepreneur or building their own business

07:48 What can you learn from product managers?

12:42 Stakeholder's feedback

18:29 What made you move to Thailand and how did those career choices develop? 21:25 Dream about traveling the world, living abroad, and being an entrepreneur

25:02 How to slow down

28:48 What have you learned about teaching online?

31:33 Moment of reflection

33:18 How do you think Data scientists need to be taught differently?

36:10 About Data-Mania

39:51 Where to follow Lillian Pierson

40:53 Conclusion

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Introducing Lillian Pierson

Gilbert Eijkelenboom:

I could make today's introduction very, very low because today we have linear sees a data scientist and engineer and also an entrepreneur and many years ago people could die and too many telemetries, but it has not always been that she will tell you everything about his lineage as a data scientist structure. He has over 1.3 million also, she has written six data published eight. So this episode will be especially useful if you're an entrepreneur, looking to become a world leader. But it will be about how to validate your ideas, how understand your stakeholders, and get feedback. So they can learn a lot about them and not get disappointed at the end where your product so you will learn about the career choices you make, what you have learned from living abroad. And if you want to become an entrepreneur or leader this episode, witness. I hope you enjoy this episode, Livia. Eileen, welcome to the show.

Lilllian Pierson:

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here today.

Who is Lilian Pierson

Gilbert Eijkelenboom:

Thanks for making the time to talk about many things, including entrepreneurship, and your business people out. But let's start with the story about you. So how did you end up in data centers about that journey?

Lillian Pierson:

Sure. So I've always been a data person and by that evening, my risk five stepfathers had a computer and I was always curious about it and playing with his spreadsheets when I was seven. And my first job was data entry and medical billing. So I was just always leaning toward data, my entire career. And I took a job and went to college for environmental engineering. And when I got a job in the field, there were different aspects of that world. Some were built systems design, and then some more hype, like data modeling, for building the hydraulics and also for hydrology for Wells, well sourcing of water and stuff like that. So they're doing also did data modeling. Yes, there was a lot of data in both and that was because they hired me because I was a GIS and could work with data. So when there is another job and that was in the data field exclusively, which started back in 2011. So this is kind of what I was good at, and I just go with that and try to get away from doing anything I didn't enjoy doing.

Product management and growing data-intensive businesses

Gilbert Eijkelenboom:

That sounds like you follow your path and eventually ended up in more product management and growing data-intensive businesses, right?

Lillian Pierson:

Yeah, so the first my first product that I built at a project that was back in 2005, which was an MVP, for the county that helps them organize the petroleum cleanup at different sites where there's contamination. So and then from there, where's he's been launched in about 35 products, most of them data products since then, so if you haven't put me into like a class, class or category in terms of professional roles, it would be I would place myself as a product manager head of product. Roles just do.

What makes you so passionate about products?

Gilbert Eijkelenboom:

What makes you so passionate about products is that there are so many different roles possible, right, but your profile and your experience, what makes you passionate about

Lilian Pierson:

Well, I love the scalability of products. And I love bringing them to market and spend a lot of time delivering services. And I did feel as an entrepreneur, I took the route that IT services for a while I did consult and I just fell in love with products because they're so scalable. So I dug deeper into that and it's been nice because I've learned like different product management frameworks, and how those to kind of translate like what I've been doing as an entrepreneur and to the product role, and just learning the language of the employees in these types of growth. So yeah.

Being an entrepreneur or building their own business

Gilbert Eijkelenboom:

I can imagine there are a lot of people listening who are currently employed, but who do have a dream of being an entrepreneur or building their own business. And you speak a lot about validating your idea before you create something before you bring it to market. What is the best process if you have any tips for people?

Lillian Pierson:

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm putting together a five-day Live series to help people with this. And the thing is, if you want to start your own business, the best way to validate your ideas is, the easiest way to monetize and start validating your ideas and getting to know your customers is to build your services. So then you can understand the mind of your customer and what they need and then you can figure out how to shape your service into a product. That said a lot of companies need to repeat as product managers a lot of companies communicate to craft their need, develop their minimum marketable product around customer data and not spend time delivering services, trying to figure out what their customers need. And so, in that case, you would want to do customer interviews and surveys to identify what your customers need and then iterate around that to design. build out metrics and definer MVP and then see, yeah, develop it and launch it. So there's this speaking as an entrepreneur, like I started as an entrepreneur, right, I even started as a product manager. So it's different sides of the same point, when you get in there, but being a product manager for as an employee is here a lot easier. Because you don't have to worry about profits and loss and like there are a million things you have to do as an entrepreneur that you don't have to do a as an engineer.